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December 23rd, 2011
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Three arrested, accused of illegally feeding homeless

Jewish legends about why Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed

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From:nellorat
Date:December 23rd, 2011 07:18 pm (UTC)
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Nice connection between the two links, in the idea that one of the sins was punishing someone for feeding the homeless.

I've pretty much settled on the idea that the Sodomites' desired abuse of the visitors was their main sin. Giving hospitality (& receiving it well) is a huge theme in most pre-modern cultures, in which stangers literally depended on others for their lives; it also shows up in Greek myths, the structure of Dante's Inferno, etc.

The news article makes me wonder if the people being fed maybe were an Occupy group or not. The ordinance seems to me like it was based in public picnics (hence the limit to two a year) & just applied here because it could be. And on the one hand, if I were a young other in an apartment or a jogger, I wouldn't want the park to turn in to a de facto soup kitchen; OTOH, given the dearth of funding of real soup kitchens, it seems like maybe the lesser of two evils.
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From:nancylebov
Date:December 23rd, 2011 07:44 pm (UTC)
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The Jewish legends about Sodom and Gomorrah have been on my mind for a long time, considering the mean-spiritedness of a lot of American policies, especially in regards to immigration.
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From:xiphias
Date:December 24th, 2011 03:51 am (UTC)
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There really is something there to think about: that we have two groups of people who tell stories about why Sodom and Gemorrah were destroyed. One group says it was for gay sex; the other group says it was for having a legal system which enshrined injustice against the poor.

Which of these legends you believe may have relevance to the sorts of policies in the modern world you support.

(This isn't a Jewish/Christian thing, either. There's a Talmudic legend that the reason G-d sent the Flood, the reason G-d felt the world was irredeemable, was that the antediluvian cultures had gay marriage. And marriage to beasts. That is -- the thing that made it unforgivable wasn't the fact of gay relationships, or bestiality -- and, yes, that part of the Talmud does consider them equivalent -- but rather, the societal sanction of them. Haredi and other ultra-Orthodox rabbis point to this text as a reason to be against gay marriage.)
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