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June 29th, 2012
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*Hugo* and the Hugos
Is the movie science fiction and/or fantasy at all? If you're voting for the Hugos, does this matter?

Could the movie be snuck in as part of the fantastic? Is there something disquieting about using an adjective as a noun?

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From:tod_hollykim
Date:June 29th, 2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
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Fantasy more than science fiction I'd say from what I've seen of it. Maybe a bit steampunk.
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From:nwhyte
Date:June 29th, 2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
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My view is that it clearly is not either science fiction or fantasy. The technology in the film is clearly realistic for the period in which it is set, and the fantasy elements are clearly delineated as dreams.

It's up to voters to decide if this matters. Myself, I prefer Hugos in the various fiction categories to go to sf or fantasy works, so I will not be giving it any of my preference votes.
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From:xiphias
Date:June 29th, 2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
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The robot?
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From:nwhyte
Date:June 30th, 2012 08:52 am (UTC)
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Absolutely possible in the 1930s. In 1805 they were building automata that could draw pictures:

http://www.fi.edu/learn/sci-tech/automaton/automaton.php?cts=instrumentation
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From:ckd
Date:June 29th, 2012 07:56 pm (UTC)
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"Any theatrical feature or other production, with a complete running time of more than 90 minutes, in any medium of dramatized science fiction, fantasy or related subjects that has been publicly presented for the first time in its present dramatic form during the previous calendar year."

The portrayal of a fictionalized Méliès with specific reference to his SF film-making qualifies as a "related subject" in my book.
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From:agrumer
Date:June 29th, 2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
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Is there something disquieting about using an adjective as a noun?

Not if you accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative. Or worry about the plight of the poor at the hands of the rich. Or distinguish between the raw and the cooked. Or follow the good and avoid the bad.
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From:nancylebov
Date:June 29th, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
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Or miss the Delany reference?
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From:agrumer
Date:June 29th, 2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
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Could be. Which book?
From:nancylebov
Date:June 29th, 2012 10:52 pm (UTC)
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"The Star Pit"-- specifically, the golden.
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From:agrumer
Date:June 30th, 2012 02:43 am (UTC)
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I don't think I've even heard of that one, much less read it.
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From:nancylebov
Date:June 30th, 2012 07:28 am (UTC)
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I recommend the story-- it's got a lot of good stuff in it.
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From:nancylebov
Date:June 30th, 2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
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It wasn't part of an Ace Double, but "Empire Star" was.
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From:beamjockey
Date:June 29th, 2012 08:54 pm (UTC)
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It's not SF, it's not fantasy, but I agree with ckd that it qualifies under "related subjects." I will be voting for it on my ballot, but I respect nwhyte's decision not to.
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From:andrewducker
Date:June 29th, 2012 09:52 pm (UTC)
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It's about Science Fiction. Not entirely, but at least partially. Whether that's sufficient is a personal choice.

Awesome movie though.
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From:xiphias
Date:June 30th, 2012 12:02 am (UTC)
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It's got a clockwork robot in it, of a complexity that would be difficult to do today, and probably impossible without computer-assisted fabrication.
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From:nancylebov
Date:June 30th, 2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
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If you're doing that sort of protest of the long form Hugos, don't even look at the short form. They were dire.
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