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May 12th, 2009
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The Star Trek movie
Mild spoilers follow.......

I seem to be one of the few people who didn't love it. I do think it's one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen-- the frames are well composed (sometimes I got pulled into the story enough to fall out of aesthetic appreciation mode, but mostly I was seeing just how nice it was visually.) Sorry, guys, I can't define good composition, I just know when looking at things makes me feel good. And the colors! I think that movie had the most complex and satisfying use of color I've ever seen.

I can't help wondering if a lot of the "optimistic sf" bounce-bounce is actually an effect of how delightful it was visually, because it wasn't all that optimistic. Maybe it was optimistic compared to most recent sf because everything was well maintained and there wasn't obvious massive corruption, malice, or incompetence among the viewpoint characters.

The music was awful, except for a little which was innocuous.

The fight scenes weren't interesting. Steve Barnes describes them as underrehearsed. Well, he's a movie buff and a martial artist, so he might be right. I think they were underchoreographed and possibly badly directed.

And irritating. Not that I'm in love with modern warfare, but hand-to-hand on the drill? Haven't these people heard of weapons?

I'm going to do another post about different kinds and levels of outrage, so take the following as irritation, not a desire for the world to be remade or for anyone to stop enjoying what they like. Practically the whole movie was men butting heads with each other. I don't get *that* much fun out of watching it.

It was nice that Spock moved with inhuman smoothness. I don't know if it was personal skill or skill amplified with a little CGI.

Kirk was very ornamental, and it's nice to see a somewhat non-standard face as a lead.

If you have black holes, what do you need the drill for? Oh well, at least it looked good. So did the Romulan ship.

I suspect a movie critic could have some fun with when the Enterprise was large on the screen and when it was small.

Can we haz a cube-square law? When the big red monster kept going floomp, it should have taken some damage. Yes, I do realize that the sense of plausibility is personal and somewhat random.

I wish Kirk's mother had somewhat in the way of warrior virtues, and not demanded that her husband be with her when he's in a battle. Poul Anderson would have written her differently.

Has ultrasound been completely forgotten? Don't people normally choose their kid's name before the birth?

I really think Kirk could have quoted the reg about emotional discombobulation to Spock, and if Spock was really Spock, he would have stepped down. There was no need to hammer on Spock to make him show emotions.

Possible button slogans:

I implied

[need to get exact phrasing] I could quote regulations to you, but you'd just ignore them

If you have black holes, why do you need a drill?

Trailers: I want to see the new Terminator movie-- there's considerable sense of visual style, and there might be interesting things happening. 1 BC looks stupid, but possibly somewhat funny.

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From:madfilkentist
Date:May 12th, 2009 01:15 pm (UTC)
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You might find the discussion on Bad Astronomy interesting, if you haven't seen it already.
From:whc
Date:May 12th, 2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
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>Has ultrasound been completely forgotten?

There are people today who choose to not know the gender of their child before birth, I assume some in the future will feel the same way.


>Don't people normally choose their kid's name before the birth?

Usually, but I know of exceptions. Sometimes there are two suggesions and the argument isn't settled before the child is born.
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From:radiotelescope
Date:May 12th, 2009 02:43 pm (UTC)
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I thought about the core-drill issue -- during the movie, even -- and decided that the problem must have been that the initial reaction stage was very energetic. If you just throw your droplet of Red Pop at a planet's surface, you wind up blowing a few hundred million tons of crust into a long cometary orbit, and the forming singularity goes with it.

Evidence implies that evil-guy could have destroyed a planet by crashing his entire load of evil into it, but he had several hundred Federation planets to get through and probably wanted to survive the experience too.

I did not, at any point, think that this mental exercise was necessary to enjoy the movie.
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From:dcseain
Date:May 12th, 2009 03:29 pm (UTC)
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I thought the core-drill issue was to allow the planet to collapse symmetrically into the black hole from the inside out, rather than to get sucked asymmetrically, to one side.
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From:nancylebov
Date:May 12th, 2009 03:48 pm (UTC)
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Is that an aesthetic choice, or is there a reason for not wanting an asymetrical collapse?
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From:dcseain
Date:May 12th, 2009 04:03 pm (UTC)
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I think it's aesthetic.
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From:nancylebov
Date:May 12th, 2009 03:46 pm (UTC)
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Thanks. That's reasonable, though it might count as doing the writer work for them.

And as you say, that's not at all the point of the movie.
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From:catbirdgirl
Date:May 12th, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)
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button- hello, my name is James T Kirk, you killed my father, prepare to die.

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