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November 10th, 2009
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I don't think this needs a context.....


This is a deleted scene from the movie of the Half-Blood Prince. I only read the book once, and I don't remember where it fits in the story-- maybe it's about Dumbledore's funeral.

And I haven't liked the HP movies I've seen all that much-- they don't look right. Perhaps I'd be happier with an animated version (drawn, goddamit, not CGI!) based on the illustrations used as chapter headings. The only thing I've been really delighted by is the initial musical theme from the first movie. It isn't Harry Potter, but it's a fine evocation of magic.

However, I love this video, and I like to think I'd love it even if I'd never heard of Harry Potter.

It back up my notion that, much as I can enjoy flashy special effects, fantasy movies still run on acting.

Link thanks to rm.

Addendum:: The embedded video doesn't seem to work--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyDrF8azi2U

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From:rm
Date:November 10th, 2009 04:22 pm (UTC)
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Can't be Dumbledore's funeral, because Snape seems to still be at Hogwarts, but I've no idea what it is. (Bad HP-related pro confession: I've still not seen HBP, so I don't know what they did to it on film).
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From:madfilkentist
Date:November 10th, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
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Special effects and teenage stuff, with occasional concessions to the plot.
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From:andrewducker
Date:November 10th, 2009 10:53 pm (UTC)
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It's the various people leading up to the finale of the book/film.

The person we look down on in the bed is Draco, failing to sleep as he thinks about the thing he must do. Similarly with Snape...
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From:dcseain
Date:November 10th, 2009 04:33 pm (UTC)
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In the book, this is what is going on just as the Dark Lord is appearing in the sky.
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From:richardthinks
Date:November 10th, 2009 05:52 pm (UTC)
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I agree that the movies don't look right, and are all a bit limp and lacklustre, but are you advocating for the Mary Grandpre illos? I'm afraid those look completely wrong to me: chubby and jokey and not at all ha-ha-but-serious (a note that tends to get drowned out by rather clumsy over-seriousness later in the series).

...as for drawn, not CGI, animation going forward, I agree, but good luck. I fear it's a lost era: the costs are simply too high, now that it's been demonstrated that you can do it with computers and the audience will come in the same or greater numbers.

The acting, especially in 1 and 2, is a bit of a mystery to me: they hired all the right (although perhaps too-obvious) people and got pasteboard out of them. I can only conclude that it's the director's fault. I thought 3 stood head and shoulders above the others in both book and movie formats (in general I like Gambon and Oldman, I thought they were well used here), so I guess I'm just going to look wistfully at Alfonso Cuaron and wonder if he can ever be persuaded to make another fantasy flick.
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From:nancylebov
Date:November 10th, 2009 06:15 pm (UTC)
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I'm advocating for those little illos because I like them a lot.

It's obvious that what we have in common is being irritated by things that look wrong, but "look wrong" obviously varies a lot from one person to another.

In other news, I think the original Dr. Who theme is brilliant, and the later versions are over-orchestrated, bombastic, and boring. I can accept that not everyone hears it that way, but only when I'm working very hard to be civilized.
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From:richardthinks
Date:November 10th, 2009 06:50 pm (UTC)
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Fair enough. In general my tastes run more Dave McKean than Brian Froud, and more Dore than Grandpre, but I know that's not true of everyone.

That Dr. Who theme was fresh and weird - just the sort of thing the BBC Radiophonic Workshop was made for. But I will never be able to hear it again without remembering a bunch of my friends gathered around the TV scat signing it. I think my back problems may date from that moment. You had to be there, of course, but I'm laughing about it as I write this.
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From:thnidu
Date:November 10th, 2009 06:20 pm (UTC)
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I can't see it. I get a text saying "This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender's friend request", and I can't get past it.
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From:nancylebov
Date:November 10th, 2009 08:11 pm (UTC)
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I assumed that if the embedding text was available at youtube, it would work. Silly me. I've added the url to my post.
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From:thnidu
Date:November 10th, 2009 11:44 pm (UTC)
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Thanx!
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From:whswhs
Date:November 10th, 2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
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Ironically, I like the movies rather better than the books . . . and that's not high praise, because the only movies that I actually felt involved with were Prisoner of Azkaban and Order of the Phoenix. Philosopher's Stone and Chamber of Secrets, in particular, struck me as having absolutely no dynamism at all; they were effectively like looking at a series of very well done illustrations of scenes from a story. But they were more enjoyable that the books they were based on . . . which tells you how little enthusiasm I have for the stories. After I read Order of the Phoenix, I was able to go back and get a bit more out of the earlier books, but I still don't find them more than passable.
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From:agrumer
Date:November 10th, 2009 08:59 pm (UTC)
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I, on the other hand, sat stunned through the trailer for the first movie, amazed at how exactly everything looked like the images that the book had put in my head. Maybe because I read the UK editions, which conjure different images than the US editions?
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From:nancylebov
Date:November 10th, 2009 09:37 pm (UTC)
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Damfino. I'm betting that your imagination was more in line with the movie makers for no particular reason.

I thought the movies were generally too dark (literally-- too dimly lit, snd the colors were muddy). I think of the books as mostly having very bright clear colors. I doubt this is a British vs. American edition issue.
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From:agrumer
Date:November 11th, 2009 01:18 am (UTC)
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Well, there you go. The American editions have colors, while the British editions have colours, which are darker and muddier than American colors due to England being further north.
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From:richardthinks
Date:November 10th, 2009 09:24 pm (UTC)
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...and now I've finally seen the video, I have to say, that's really nicely realised: great combination of music and lighting, sense of foreboding - the sort of thing the current crop of movies never seems to have time for, much to their detriment.

Oh.
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From:communicator
Date:November 11th, 2009 12:14 am (UTC)
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It's lovely. I wish they would do a whole film impressionistically. We all know the plot - don't even bother to convey it.
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From:richardthinks
Date:November 11th, 2009 01:35 am (UTC)
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I really love that idea... especially because you're applying it to Harry frikin Potter. How about doing Dobby and Mrs Norris Are Dead instead?
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From:siderea
Date:November 11th, 2009 01:02 am (UTC)
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Mmmmm. Everything goes better with parallel thirds or sixths in the descant. :)
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From:womzilla
Date:November 13th, 2009 03:55 am (UTC)
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The things that get deleted from films amaze me. I can't imagine any editing process that left this scene on the floor and all of the Quiddich sequences in place at full length.
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