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January 28th, 2011
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Influence and ethics
In the course of poking around in my head, I found that I'm very cautious about influencing people and being influenced. I feel very strongly that there's something unsavory about being moved very much by outside influences. It's entirely possible that I'm overdoing the boundary thing.

So, what sort of influence are you uncomfortable exerting? What sort of influence do you dislike having used on you? Do the goals matter? Are there types of influence that you like being on the receiving end of?

I probably don't have enough of a handle on the range of the subject to even ask all the questions that would elicit worthwhile stuff, so feel free to free associate.

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From:kgbooklog
Date:January 29th, 2011 04:42 am (UTC)
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I strongly dislike the whole concept of haggling, even when it's part of a game (like Monopoly). I'm just not comfortable with talking someone into doing something that benefits me at their expense.
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From:richardthinks
Date:January 29th, 2011 06:07 am (UTC)
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I'm suspicious of being influenced too, but that only means I have my guard up against certain kinds of influence I can see.

I also dislike haggling. And I have a long-running query about gift giving - I guess it's my cultural background that wants gifts to look like spontaneous expressions of generosity rather than reciprocal chess moves; I'm trying to figure out if that's what everyone feels, who is part of a gift-giving culture, or if Trobriand Islanders and African kings and whatnot are just comfortable with the exchange and don't wish it was any other way.

I rather like flattery because I've pretty much never been exposed to it, but I understand it gets old quickly. I loathe the very phrase "moral suasion." And like Proust I'd like to be pampered and caressed, but I probably wouldn't be able to relax into it because I'd be waiting for the petition...
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From:madfilkentist
Date:January 29th, 2011 11:51 am (UTC)
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I try to influence people only by appealing to their self-interest, understanding of what's right, and sense of logical consistency. I don't care to use guilt or other forms of emotional manipulation to get them to to things.
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From:bemused_leftist
Date:January 29th, 2011 09:27 pm (UTC)
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Yes. My preferred approach is to give someone information that he didn't have. Which, when plugged into his CURRENT values and energy, will enable him to get a result he already wants. And/or, I show a method/means to do something he has been wanting to do.

Wikileaks comes to mind as a current example: giving people who already WANT to blow a whistle, a safe whistle to blow.

As for using this approach to get people to do things I want ... well, that means looking for people who already want the same results I do. ;-)
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From:madfilkentist
Date:January 29th, 2011 09:32 pm (UTC)
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I'm not so sure Wikileaks is such a "safe" whistle the way things are going.
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From:bemused_leftist
Date:January 30th, 2011 12:52 am (UTC)
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Unfortunately. Still a good example, though.
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