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July 3rd, 2011
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Motivations and fanfiction
I'm doing a button that says "I tell lies for money" which I think will mostly appeal to professional writers.

It would be nice to have something similar for fanfiction writers, but I'm not sure of the best phrasing.

I tell lies for fun.
I tell lies for egoboo. (good except that egoboo -- praise from a home community -- is a word that never made it out of fanzine fandom so far as I know)
I tell lies for love. (probably the most accurate, but the connotations don't work)

Thoughts? Suggestions?

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From:batwrangler
Date:July 4th, 2011 02:11 am (UTC)
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Egoboo is also in use at least in convention-running fandom. Possibly because there is a large overlap with fanzinedom.
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From:carbonel
Date:July 4th, 2011 02:13 am (UTC)
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The word "egoboo" is understood in the parts of fanfic fandom I hang out in -- which is, admittedly, mostly the older end of things.

You could also go with "I tell lies for kudos" because AO3 (Archive of Our Own) instituted a kudos function last year, where you can press a button and send kudos to a story writer without making an actual comment. I think it's kind of equivalent to Facebook's "like' button, but I'm not on Facebook, so can't tell for sure.
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From:olifhar
Date:July 4th, 2011 02:16 am (UTC)
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"I tell lies about the lies they tell for money"--though better describes the main activities of a book reviewer than a fanfic writer.
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From:thespian
Date:July 4th, 2011 02:26 am (UTC)
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I tell lies for ★★★★☆s.
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From:alyxyn
Date:July 4th, 2011 02:57 am (UTC)
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I embroider on the lies of others?
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From:whswhs
Date:July 4th, 2011 03:38 am (UTC)
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How about

I tell other people's lies

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From:agrumer
Date:July 4th, 2011 03:00 am (UTC)
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I tell lies for pageviews.
I tell lies for upvotes.
I tell lies in the winter, when it drizzles.
I tell lies in the summer, when it sizzles.

(Got a bit carried away, there.)
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From:whswhs
Date:July 4th, 2011 03:37 am (UTC)
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There was the French writer who said, "Writing is like sex. You do it for love, and then you do it as a favor for a friend, and in the end you do it for money." On that spectrum, fanfic seems to be the second stage.
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From:st_rev
Date:July 4th, 2011 03:55 am (UTC)
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"I tell lies for whuffie" seems closest, but is probably too obscure.
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From:whswhs
Date:July 4th, 2011 05:18 am (UTC)
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All liars reveals things about their psyches by the lies they choose to tell. There's nothing special about fanfic writers in that. You could say the same about politicians. And yet we call a politician a liar when his statements don't also reveal things about external reality.
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From:malkingrey
Date:July 4th, 2011 04:29 am (UTC)
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"I tell lies for feedback."

Or maybe, "Avocational Liar".

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From:nancylebov
Date:July 4th, 2011 03:48 pm (UTC)
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At this point, I don't think I'll do a fanfic version. There doesn't seem to be a consensus on the phrasing.

It's certainly true that professional writers and fanfic writers share most of their motivations for writing. I don't have a feeling for how the existence of a fanfic button would affect sales of the professional button.

I think I'll wait until a fanfic catchphrase that's in use in the community surfaces.

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From:richardthinks
Date:July 4th, 2011 08:33 am (UTC)
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I know whuffie but not egoboo. Kudos works anyway, of course, although I don't know the cited source.

I tell lies in my spare time.

I don't know what the truth is.
I wouldn't know the truth if it bit me.
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From:whswhs
Date:July 4th, 2011 05:15 pm (UTC)
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Really? I've known egoboo for decades, but I've never seen whuffie before, and it's not obvious from the shape of the word what it means.
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From:subnumine
Date:July 4th, 2011 10:04 pm (UTC)
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I tell lies/for love.

[for slash fanfiction]
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From:arundelo
Date:July 4th, 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
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Not quite right, but: "I tell lies for free."
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From:tomscud
Date:July 5th, 2011 04:42 am (UTC)
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I think I'd go with "money" struck out with "fun" written in.
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From:nancylebov
Date:July 5th, 2011 03:47 pm (UTC)
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The problem is that professional writers write for all the same reasons fan fic writers do, with the addition of writing for money. A button which implies that professional writers don't also have fun isn't quite what I want to say.
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From:tomscud
Date:July 5th, 2011 11:01 pm (UTC)
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This is not really the same idea, but I'm imagining a button labeled "BLOCKHEAD" in big letters with the Samuel Johnson quote in fine print. ("No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money." seems like the most common version on google).
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