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So I threw myself on the grenade.... - Input Junkie
April 21st, 2014
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So I threw myself on the grenade....

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From:whswhs
Date:April 22nd, 2014 12:29 am (UTC)
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Wasn't Charles Williams an Anglican?
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From:jsburbidge
Date:April 22nd, 2014 12:35 am (UTC)
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Cradle Anglican, but he was always very much an Anglo-Catholic, if not quite as much so as, say, T.S. Eliot or Eric Mascall. Nancy specified only Catholic, not Roman- or Anglo-.
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From:whswhs
Date:April 22nd, 2014 01:43 am (UTC)
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When I see "Catholic," I take it to mean "Roman Catholic." I think that's pretty common in American usage; what you're calling "Anglo-Catholics" I think would be called "high church Episcopalians," and I don't think many Americans would even think of them if someone talked about Catholics. Certainly that interpretation never occurred to me for a moment. Episcopalians, like Presbyterians and Congregationalists, are one of the old core Protestant denominations that are now fading away—but they're "Protestant" in a sense that excludes "Catholic."

I'm not positive that that was what Nancy meant, but it was certainly what I took her to mean, as she's an American.
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From:jsburbidge
Date:April 22nd, 2014 02:10 am (UTC)
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"High-church" tends to mean, in Anglican circles, a branch of the church that likes ritual but isn't very concerned with the theology. They are rather looked down on by ACs.

The usage is as much American as English, though it is comparatively specialised. When I was going to Johns Hopkins back in the early 1980s I went to a downtown Baltimore parish which would have been shocked to be referred to as "Protestant".

More importantly from a content of works point of view, the theology is largely identical - Eucharistic sacrifice, invocation of saints, seven sacraments plus a ton of sacramentals, statues and images, etc. and the ritual is similar (if now possibly more traditional than at Rome). The major differences are regarding papal authority. From that point of view SFF from A.C. sources would be largely indistinguishable from that from R.C. sources.
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